“Once we are conquered, the graves of our warriors will not be lost”. Ruslan Horovy - about the unknown Donbass, Verka Serduchka

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Honored journalist of Ukraine, author of the project " Then they switched to Ukrainian again, and the increased atrocities that were committed by the occupiers after the large-scale invasion remained inspired by Russian music and literature.

– Mr. Ruslana, who welcomed you after the 24th of 2022? – My bulb has not changed radically since 2014, but I was amazed by the changes of so many people. For example, Vitaly Kirichenko (the founder of the rock band “Number 482”) is a member of the military defense and is currently fighting in a combat squad. Abo Artem Polezhaka - a wonderful singer, one of the coolest satirists, who also stood for the defense of the country. It’s a shame for all people, but if you realize that these people may have a great influx on their creativity and we can spend it on them.. And then, spend this influx on a whole generation!

The fragments in me don’t have one eye, we don’t want to fight, so we need to help others. I respect: if you don’t fight, you can volunteer.

– Who do you respect as underrated and, at the same time, overrated stars in Ukraine – Edge " Viktor Vinnik, who wrote the song “I am from Ukraine”, is a mega-talent. I wish I could have collected the stadiums, but I wonder if anyone will be there. Unfortunately, I don’t know how it works.

Why is there a problem with overvaluation?. I think that all the “kokoshnik” ratings, which are “changed” 300 times, really do not carry any value. Whenever there were pranks in the first albums of Irina Bilik. Then she wanted to be a star in Russia, but she still earned so much for Ukrainian music!

– In social media they often criticize the Kurgan \u0026 Agregat group: they say that they want to actively help the ZSU, but they drink surzhik, which is something to put on a par with the Russian language. What do you think about this drive - Surzhik, govirka, balachka - it’s important to understand what the basis is in them. Since the basis is Ukrainian, such a surzhik is completely acceptable, and even all this talk is a language that helps to liven up the language. Kurgan \u0026 Agregat has a Ukrainian foundation and vimova, so I consider their creativity absolutely normal. The stench is not the first and will not remain. I would like to take Verka Serduchka: you can always put it before Andriy Danilka, but in the new Surzhik it was Ukrainian, but it was not Ukrainian. Or, for example, the project of 2015–2016 rocks " They were asked for inputs for volunteer organizations and our soldiers in Donbass. Hour after hour I drove from them - and “reached” the point where a child was born in us from Luda (grins). So, this material was also richer than Surzhik, but it also had a Ukrainian basis.

– You especially decided to Ukrainianize, if only one Russian-born Ukrainian? – I didn’t emphasize at all on the fact that this is my merit. There are still a lot of people who know: they used to speak Russian, but now in their homeland they speak Ukrainian, and my books and songs were woven into the ceremony.

– My friend recently told me that she started teaching the football section at the Youth Sports School. Having ate up the group, which had already formed long ago, so that the children knew each other well. And the axis on the second and third training, approaching the boys, felt in his stomach: “Oh, this one, who speaks Ukrainian! " Why bother with such dads At the same time, its reliability. – Before speaking, all sections are simply a disaster, especially sports ones. It is possible that athletes do not quite correctly understand my words, but, as on me, you develop either a body or a brain. It’s very rare to be able to work harmoniously and simultaneously, so coaches are not always intellectuals. They are excellent professionals, but this does not mean that they are philologists who know the language on the local level. Therefore, it is extremely important to joke with the Ukrainian people themselves.

My daughter went to the dance, and we immediately joked about the middle school, where the coach was, and the group would be Ukrainian. Even though the mothers of their children still want to smell Russian among themselves, I guess that’s how life sounds. I don’t disrespect them, because I understand: no matter how super chick, there are no nerves. It was a service sector, and the trainer herself said it was Russian - in other words, I try to culturally troll such people.

In your friend’s skin, it’s better to look for the middle part, which is right for them. I understand that it is difficult, but the struggle for identity is not easy. Moreover, we live in a land where we have been systematically growing for generations. I know people who have moved to another place where there is a greater concentration of Ukrainian ethnicity.

When I spend an hour with my little daughter on the children's square, she looks for Ukrainian children. I’ll reiterate that it’s important for me to speak Ukrainian, and as long as it’s Ukrainian, you can know your language. We have a wonderful school, but that doesn’t mean that no one there can speak Russian at home. You can’t get in on the chain. Prote in the Ukrainian school itself is told a mustache - from the protection to the director. Nowadays the child begins to understand: people, as the Russians say, are simply dropping bombs on us, causing the Ukrainians to die. The child needs to tell the truth. And if you respect that the Russian culture is not less than the Russian people, then the gaps are over, the growth of children in such a situation is the same as theirs. – How do you compare to journalist Dmitr Gordon, who again switches his interviews to Russian language, motivating us that “this is how a larger audience will feel it”? – This is the primary manipulation. I don’t even like working on advertising for any of these types of guys, because the stink on it is simply not worth it. Journalists who have reached in life understand: in order to eliminate positions after a permanent transition to Ukrainian, you need to report strongly, and if you lose the old comfortable field, you can easily remove those that can be removed. So the idea is unimportant for them. For such media companies, switching to Russian during the hour of war is simply an attempt to target the Russian audience. I ignore such characters and urge everyone to do the same. This is the magazine for which the idea of \u200b\u200btruth is important: they switch to Ukrainian, create content with it and clearly inform that they themselves have changed internally.

– How would you comment on the scandal of Dovkola Emmy Antonyuk The interviewer found herself in the middle of a suspenseful storm through the report about the locals of Ukraine and the internal movements of people. – I tend to cringe at Facebook, and when it’s never too late to read everything, I often miss some ideas, and then tell me about them after the fact, like jokes about a giraffe (grins). Look, in all these topics about identity, about coming and going, it’s already easy to find words. People are mixed, scattered around the edges, everyone has their own knowledge, so they can read the same text in their own way and develop different ideas.

Against the backdrop of history, we often travel to libraries near the front lines. And I can confirm: at the gathering the great one will drink from a Ukrainian book. Chomu? Because people are trying to find out the answer to the most basic question: “Who am I?”? Try to identify yourself. Sometimes they don’t have any roots, even though Russia has lost them, and they joke about. It’s not my choice to not know who the “Tigercatchers” are.. For those who didn’t even know what the stink was, a majestic machine was performing. There are a lot of narratives in our heads about the merger of Ukraine, about HPE. That gathering is wonderful! A great number of people have already died for being Ukrainian and Ukrainian! Fateful myths were propagated: either about the “zahidnyaks” who could not sit in Poland, or about those that Kharkov is a “Russian city”. It appeared on the skin in different ways: some appeared stable, some were less.

But the truth is that the gathering is simply territorially close to death. This is a complex region, the growth and mixing of the population of which all invested great resources. In Kharkov, the song “Putin is a bitch” was sung for the first time, when the fans fell asleep and fell asleep. In Kharkov itself, young boys fired k*tsap tanks on the approaches to the place.

– It’s impossible not to remember the Kharkiv resident Danya Didik. - So! This boy could have lived a completely different life, and such was the potential. If the homeland has robbed you, you have to live in Germany and Ukraine, and you want to lose your home. Actually this is your choice. I went to all patriotic events. The stench was gone on that move (March of Unity and commemoration of the Heroes of the Heavenly Hundred on February 22, 2015. – Ed. ), as the mayor did not defend herself, although everyone understood the risk of provocation. There, through a pro-Russian terrorist attack, my life was cut short.

Therefore, all formulations should be clear, because if you start to speak in a veiled manner, great confidence arises, which you will understand incorrectly.

– Apparently you wrote on Facebook: “I really don’t understand why you can love today and would like to respect this Russian thing.”. What kind of \? What kind of \? What kind of Russian rock, ballet and harmonica with balalaika? I wonder how one can be tolerantly ranked up to the “great and mighty”? Apparently I had an interview with one of the actors. In addition to her biography before her wedding, in one of her old profiles she noted that her favorite writer is Fedir Dostoevsky. I asked how their literature changed after the large-scale invasion. Vaughn confirmed that. don’t stop loving Dostoevsky even more through what Putin creates. – She has no understanding of the fact that everything is connected to each other. I really can't touch anything. If I have heard of Viktor Tsoi, Volodymyr Visotsky - the remaining ones who became my father’s beloved Viconavians, I still know all his songs by heart. But looking at everything that has happened so far, I don’t really want to hear any of them. I physically can’t, because I’m afraid and I understand what it’s all about. I'm looking for the dead, the dead. That's why everything Russian - including hers - is a witch for me. – You just decided to talk about this topic: “It’s all the same, when you’re in a concentration camp, you listen to the German classics.”. – Dekhto is important, no Dostoevsky is truly the pinnacle of what can be written, and not understood: to show up, how many people would need to be saved! It’s true that everything lies on the surface, you just need to think and analyze. Nowadays I have read a lot, I am collecting the great baggage of Russian literature. Let's tidy up everything from the house so that the child doesn't waste all that shit. Because you are what you love. - You lived beyond the cordon for a long time. I didn’t even think about getting lost there? - There was a time when I clearly understood: there are no pennies, then there are young brothers and sisters and dad, what kind of beer. And I can’t even trade cowbass or smuggle any kind of smuggling into Russia. That’s why, having spent the last hour in Germany and France, we realized once again: if people die, they will want to cherish their children, loved ones and places that are stuck in memory. Behind the cordon everything is foreign - nothing about everything and at the same time nothing about anything. And here are your true emotions and those that will be lost from you in the future.

I really love Kiev - part of my family. It so happened that at once I began to become more and more like a powerful family breeder, and there was a lot of everything - a lot of Cossacks (grins)! It is more urgent, even if the skin of a person is closed, to come to the need to know one’s roots.

I am not at all disappointed in Ukraine, I just firmly understand the process: between one generation it will be so, especially since the war has not ended yet. Golovnya - so that we, pro-Ukrainian pasionaries, have enough critical mass for the movement forward. So far it seems to me that everything is going well, except for speech that may not suit me. Ale disappointment is silent. I love this country and I know that the future is for her, and not for “URSR 2”. 0" – How are Ukrainians in emigration confirmed And why is the stink of Ukrainian culture enough – I respect that people behind the cordon need to be encouraged, and not taken into account by the principle: “Give me some pennies and shut your mouth, so we better know what to earn.”! This is not suitable. And as long as I am able to communicate, then as much as I can, I will build bridges.

I will tell you again: it’s time to share the concept of the Ukrainian emigration. As we are talking about people who were forced to leave Ukraine, dragging their children, this is not emigration yet. And it’s not obligatory for people with a clear pro-Ukrainian outlook, the stench just flowed from the war. They were scattered all over the world: some took root in the local communities, some joined the Jewish people, and some simply “disobeyed” their future new life.. And those who live there for a long time, and then turn back home - like, for example, my family, who tried to live outside the cordon for a long time. The squad will still remember.

– Let it sit for a long time – for how many hours? - Three and a half rocks.

And soon there will be a generation of those who, having lost their lives, having children and taking root, will become effective emigrants. So it was during the hour of free reign in the 1920s and after the Other World War, when a great influx of Ukrainians appeared, who were simply afraid to turn around - and rightly did so. I knew a man who was born in Australia only because his father, after being released from concentration camp, was asked, as the point on the map is the closest to the Radyansky Union.

When I plan my tours, I try to carry out as many meetings as possible in a short hour - this gives results, and every failure is not perceived as a fiasco: if few people came today, then tomorrow they will come in a different place. Since I am a writer, I will try to bring and sell books - so that they don’t just ask for pennies, but deprive people of something to solve. We also conduct small auctions. There is only one principle: earning and transferring. We always need cars and money for their repairs. Besides the war, there are still so many problems that go unnoticed because you can’t tell a good story about them!

For example, mothers with two or three children, whose people were taken away by the occupiers. A woman is sitting near the hut, here the “shahad” arrives, the window flies - and what should she do And if, God forbid, the voltage surge caused the refrigerator to burn? Or people from Sumy region: many people sat there until the end, because there was a belief that “you can’t fly into my house”. And they see the same thing, if there is no house, no clothes - nothing. I need to encourage such people.

– Like your native Konotop? – My mother is still alive there, we’re calling. If the place was in the cold, they tried to transfer their faces there. Old Man has been silent for a long time - not having survived the collapse of the Radyansky Union. There are many who have not learned to live in new realities: who have shortened their lives, or who have fallen asleep. I am still aware of the food chain - how drastic changes break people.

My eldest daughter moved from Kiev to Konotop: she found a social job and is painting. She's already grown up, and she has a choice that I respect. The best thing that fathers can do is to learn to respect the decisions of their children, and not to push their “robe, as I say”. Kozhen can live a happy life. There is no need to lay straws everywhere and say: “For you are the best source of life for me.”. Otherwise we are simply evil.

– And a little bit of Ukrainian language in Konotop? - It’s obvious. If you know me, then, for everything, they say that they are Ukrainian with me. The bottom line is that the trend is probably not as strong as we would like, but definitely positive. What am I asking for respect Marvel: before the occupation of Donbass and Crimea, approximately 30–35% of the population served as Ukrainians. Then the great war began, and the marker “friend or foe” became critically important in the first days of the month. People were simply afraid that they would be mistaken for Russians - and even in Rivny, New York and Kharkov. There was a huge splash - everyone switched to Ukrainian, so it was not so much about knowledge, but about survival. As we know, the Ukrainians later sensed a song of disappointment. Once the front line stabilized, it became clear: the order was ours. Behind the cordon, the Russian Ukrainians learned that for their language no one beats them (let’s call it by their proper names! ), and you will receive a download. Having said that, you must avoid additional discomfort? And she is ready to endure this man more than for the sake of a clear goal.

In this case, there is another side: who has passed the residual part of the process, who has gone beyond Ukraine, and who has realized that it is impossible to say to the Russian waters, read children as patriots and love the Russian language. I myself am from a Russified homeland, having started at a Russian school. Already in the 90s in the Donbass there were no personalities of Ukrainian, Ukrainian-centric people, who reassured me of what I, disgustingly, did not know in childhood. – Tsikavo, why did you gather such people in Donbass?. – In truth, this becomes more frank for those who have never been there.

– I was in Mariupol and never smelled Ukrainian there. Moreover, my friend is from Khmelnytskyi region, but she quickly switched to Russian. - You lived there?

- No, I was visiting this friend’s house. – I’m alive there and worked at the newspaper, driving through Donbass. There were great places where they saw Ukrainian literature and conducted research. I was born there in 1995, I believe for myself that I can understand the Ukrainian. Of course, every now and then we switched to Russian, as if it seemed that people didn’t understand. I no longer allow this infection to happen to myself, because there are no people in Ukraine who would not understand the Ukrainian. Turning to thoughts about growth: for how many generations have Russians Russified! For example, my grandfather fought in the UPA and died. His children immediately became “enemies of the people”. That's why they didn't tell them anything about all the troubles, the whipping of the powerful children - it was too scary. And the children no longer knew anything about their grandfather. The fathers were trying to change their nickname, Russify, or somehow survive. Those who, without repairing the support, simply stood there and began to respect themselves with Russians and Radian people. This is how Ukrainian language knew.

Bachite, your friend also went to Mariupol. Vaughn did not become a Russian, but changed her language, because that was how her language was..

– And from the donkaya won the Russian word. This person has always taken a pro-Russian position. I know that the stinks have moved to the Dnieper, but we can’t sleep now. – Scary speech – Russification. This is a clear choice, and you don’t get anything from it.. It is possible that the children should change - if their child makes friends with someone who has a clear pro-Ukrainian position.

We all really want everyone to become known Ukrainians, but for this we need victory. Because if you let go for a second that the Russians will conquer us, then you won’t lose the chance to visit the graves of our warriors. They will destroy everything with tanks - just like they already did in the Lugansk and Donetsk regions - and they will tell you that these “ephemeral Banderists” lived here, who fled to protect everyone. A large number of people gave their lives so that this land would be replenished with Ukrainian culture and become a cultural soil for future generations.

- How did it happen that your little daughter speaks English fluently – Tse viishlo vipadkovo. She had problems with her health among the people, but they still didn’t understand that she had neurodevelopmental disorders, that she had ADHD, and that it was important for her to concentrate for a long time.. As if Darusya fell ill, and we had a great tablet in us - almost like a TV - she could pick it up herself, which was amazing. Of course, we blocked Russian content, but Ukrainian content was still scarce at that time. Donka marveled at one English video, another, a third - and quickly drank them all! For us it's a real shock.

When, through a large-scale invading squad, they traveled to England, and then to the USA, Darusya telephoned me and said: “Tattoo, I now have a brain both Ukrainian and American! "

– I know, I really belong in your family. You still. non-standard Ukrainians, as it seems, are out of the box. – You know, the war gave a clear understanding of what we can achieve in one minute. In order to virtuous a person, you need fate, and you can kill it in one second - once, and no. We are aware of the most important things in life, and we are encouraged to live our lives.

It is now very important for me to get along with people, as I respect the most important people with a new car or apartment. If you understand that the greatest value in life is children, living fathers, friends, the ability to talk to a friend, because yesterday you didn’t understand, and today you don’t have it anymore. Ti yogo having wasted. For me, it’s simply impossible to fall down - how can people get over such fools at a moment when the world is literally shrinking and, perhaps, has lost even a few hours, which is really important.

- How did you manage to win the heart of such a woman (Lyudmila Gorova is a poet who is called another Lina Kostenko, author of the famous poem “The Enemy”. – Ed.

– We knew a little bit, but we were doing our own thing when war came in 2014. Here we met across the river and actually immediately started living together. Both people are already grown up, so if you immediately understand: you have avoided something really important.

As if my friends and I were talking about those who allegedly met 20 years earlier, then, perhaps, they would not have looked at one, because there was a completely different light in the skin (grins).

– With such an active schedule, if you know the hour, you can re-engage? Do you have weekends – To be honest, even in my youth I was sane: there is no such concept as “today is my day off, so I’m going to wake up.”. It’s enough for me to sleep for two or three years, or I’ll go to sleep, as it seems, “like a cow”: sleep for 15 weeks – and after that, don’t sleep well.

Re-engage in helping your family and friends with your readers. We recently organized a concert to collect bones on cystic implants for the injured - radio presenter Sonya Sotnik came to Kiev on Thursday. That day there was a funeral and a rocket flew in, so they voiced the day of complaint. We had been fooling around for a long time, but we still wanted to make a run. The "

And I also swim through, as much as I can. To regain strength, it’s enough just to throw it into some water (grins).

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