Alexei Mikhailichenko in an interview with the magazine Football told what he is doing today in Dynamo, and also recalled his playing career.
Presenting Alexei Mikhailovich to our readers is a matter of no use, everyone knows him, and a reminder that he won the championships of the three countries, and in 88th he managed to actively participate in the European Championships (final) and in the Olympics (victory!), for certain will cause a puzzled shrug of shoulders: "Authors, you for whom we here hold? !! Seriously think that we do not know about it? !! "Jubilees - it's different, they can and should be reminded, even if the initiators of the celebrations themselves are not at all eager to raise the hype about this and even vice versa. You see, the biographies of such football players, coaches and, finally, just people? so crowded with events and on? are so instructive that they are extraordinary, but it is useful to come back again and again. And what? the occasion is better than the birthday, whose integer characteristic is divided into 5 without any remainder? !!.
There are our heroes, whom we usually call stars and place in football constellations in a peculiar horizon, one wonderful feature: they may simply not realize, on? how interesting and valuable is this or that detail of their career, their creative path. Well, the task of journalists, in addition, is to have such a fact? you, factionists, and when and bai ki draw and present for everyone to see. To the reader / fan represented football in all its incredible variety and countless subtleties. Sometimes - very vital (as a relationship of Soviet life and the regime of concentration), sometimes - not very much then comprehensible (if you start talking about tactics and methods of training).
Our conversation took place in the Dynamo office, that is, as it should be - in purely business? setting. When no one distracts from an intelligent and witty interlocutor. Did you get it? We will see.
The main thing is that I still work in my own club - Alexey? Alexandrovich, the celebration of anniversaries of famous people? causes piercing? public interest. How do you experience these moments?.
- Usually. And where to get away from it? As Vladimir Bessonov said, the only thing that changes - I turn to play U? 55. Vladimir Vasilyevich now plays for U? 60, and I'm for U? 55.
- 55 - Is it much or tolerable?.
- Inside the soul the same as ten, and twenty years ago. I take it for granted.
- What changes in your life have taken place since you celebrated fifty kopecks?.
- Everyone? anniversaries? I met in the new? positions. At forty I was the head coach of Dynamo, in 45 - I trained the national team, I met Oleg Blokhin in coaching staff for 50 years, and 55 - for the position of sports director. But the most important thing is that I stayed in my own club!.
- Have you gone on promotion?.
- Is it different? work profile. Is it fundamentally different from coaching? activities. The main thing is to be useful to the native club, but in what? role is not so significant.
- What is included in the circle of duties? sports director?.
- In bolsi? degrees - selection issues. On the edges? Nei? least, at this stage of mine? of work. Is it the hardest? are actual? the question, given current and economic, and political difficulties - it's about attractiveness of the Ukrainian championship for football players from abroad.
- How do you manage to keep in excellent? form? Not a kilogram of excess.
- In itself it turns out, probably. The funny thing is that before I was on vacation I was 2-3 kg. And pretty quickly. Apparently, was located to this. But after five years in Scotland, everything? has changed radically. I entered the rhythm - in the "Rey? Ngers" was one training a day, after which? at one o'clock in the afternoon I returned home ?, of course, after having already dined. Then he ate supper at six and did not eat. And so for five years. In addition, I almost do not eat flour and sweet.
- You smoke a lot. This habit could not be overcome?.
- Alas!. I smoke a cigarette 7-10 a day.
- In the old fashioned Camel?.
- Yes! Only other colors. There were yellow, steel blue (tell me, what is not a patriot, eh?! - Auth.
- And how did you start smoking?.
- Before the Moscow? Olympiad? American cigarettes appeared. What? it was temptation to try them! I tried. And in vain. I remember that I left the metro station at Khreshchatyk station, on the right of the newspaper? kiosk, a man's turn in ten. Newport cigarettes delivered. Mentholovye. Well, how not to try? !!.
- Men do not like it when they are asked about the experience of the crisis of middle age. Have you gone through this?.
- Probably. Samyi? difficult? period - the end gaming? careers. Although I was a little lucky, Valeria? Vasilyevich connected me to work - I helped on the field in the role of neutral. With Anatoly Vasilyevich (Demyanenko. - Auth. ) "From the inside" chased the guys, at the same time kept themselves in good shape. They played for the veterans, but every year it became more difficult to run. And it was realized that even in veteran football you need to go to coaching work. Now to remember where there was a midlife crisis (smiling)? !!.
- That is the concept of long-term? Depression is not familiar to you?.
- Rather, there were great experiences. After "Trabzonspor" and dismissal. Even more - after the defeat from Greece in the "off" selection at the World Cup. After Greece, I could not watch football at all.
- How did you manage to get out of this state?.
- Recipe one - the following? stage of life, new work.
- Did you ever go to a psychologist?.
- I do not remember. You see, our generation did not trust psychologists. We believed that we ourselves can be the most correct? exit. Some did not trust psychologists, some were shy. Psychologists and psychoanalysts have not yet occupied ours? country that huge niche that is assigned to them in the West.
- Is there a psychologist on the team?.
- In my opinion, should there be as few as possible non-football people on the team?. There may be administrators, masseurs, doctors, but not psychologists. The psychologist should be a coach. I remember the tandem of Lobanovsky and Puzach. Is it classic? a duet of two coolest psychologists - one can say, an evil and kind policeman (smiling).
There were always stars around me - There are different diseases, but in yours? Do you still have a profession? and such a notion as "star disease". Hurt?.
- I successfully bypassed it. I climbed too much up, so when it got out already, all? flew so quickly that there was no time to look down.
- Through what temptations in football happened? And what is the most serious in your youth nabedokurili?.
- I was lucky to play in such teams, where I was surrounded by one star. This is Dynamo (Kiev) and the national team of the Soviet Union, Sampdoria with Rey Ngiers. You're not jealous. I always had exemplary examples, on which I was equal.
- What would you like to change in yours? career?.
- I'm a fatalist in life. I think it was impossible to avoid injuries. How could it be impossible to avoid this or that situation?. Here is what. At me after all the first? the transition was to take place not in "Sampdoria", but in "Roma". And the first? I signed the contract with "Romoy?". But the commands between themselves? did not agree. In the courtyard was still 1989, the whole team flew to America, and I stayed on the operation. All the expenses were taken by "Roma", the president of which? was Dino Viola. He really wanted me to play with him. All? recovery after surgery I conducted on the basis of "Roma". Rudy Feuler was still joking about Giuseppe Giannini - they say they'll trade you, so get ready to play in a hat on the snow, your place is taken by Mikhail Michailovich! By the way, this contract with "Romoy?" At my house is stored. And I can only guess what hurdles arose between the clubs that prevented the transfer.
Returning to the topic of injuries. The first reason for the damage, from which I did not eventually go to the World Cup, 1990, happened a year earlier in the game with Austria? (0: 0). I hurt my shoulder, but I did not heal well.
- Which position was closer to you: the supporting midfielder or the attacker?.
- In the Olympics? assemblies? I played more attacker - in the middle was tandem from Geneva? Kuznetsov. In 1987-88, when Zavarov began to play under the attackers, I already "sat down" in the support zone. But in the "Rey? Ngers" I played the left halfback.
- And How?.
- No problem. I'm on? Chinal on etoy? positions. The only thing in Scotland is another? football. There balls fly over the center of the field.
"How did you tell Eugene?" Lemeshko - the games? Through the midfielders, I said, VIA.
- That's it was. Balls flew through me (laughs).
Before the game with Greece, I had a premonition of something bad - What did not happen in Blokhin's coaching staff?.
- The work is evaluated based on the result, and it just was not. Although something, I think, was successful: we brought a really good pleiad of players. Selection of performers? was very qualitative ?, but we did not have time to bring it to its logical conclusion. Remain in transition. We needed to "clean up" the team until the end, but it was also necessary to "load" the new.
- What prevented yourself from realizing "your" football player Admir Mehmedi?.
- Many reasons can be called. A large group of new players came. Most of them joined the team without going through fees, when the championship was already starting to gain momentum. It did not look very harmonious, not everyone can join the team at once. In addition, in the matter of breeding, one can never guess for sure. One player can feel great in one? team, but in the second? show nothing. Visible? an example of that? pores - Marco Ruben: it cost him to leave the "Dynamo", as he became the best scorer of the Argentine championship. Ruben where? then there was not enough ambition? and mutual understanding in the team. He could not get used to the team. Approximately the same thing happened with Doudoux.
- There was still Raffael.
- I repeat, the old system collapsed, and the new system was only being built. And you know that the hardest thing is to live under the revolution. We are in a period of change?. We want? whether these changes ?, but what? it did not work out. Who did not they find the community with? language, who could not adapt to our championship. But absolutely we can say that the potential of all the players who came was high. The only ones I did not really like were rented? at the "Milan" of Tai-tai in. I thought that all the same he does not fit our style? teams. A year later I watched one player from the Turkish championship and the cases? But saw in the game Tai-tae Tai? In. Cases? But in the sense that only twenty minutes after the game I recognized him - and then picking up the protocol! He still looked a couple of orders worse than in Kiev "Dynamo".
- Who do you consider to be the best player you've trained?.
- I can list many of the guys from Dynamo 2002-04. After Valery Vasilyevich I got a great team. With me in all? the beauty was played by Valentin Belkevich. Remember, in Valery Vasilievich Valik did not always play at the basis. Chernet was good, but he did not have the character, and he lost the competition to Valik Belkevich. Maxim Shatskikh spent the best game years. Sasha Khatskevich and Vitaly? Kosovo? great played. Even among foreigners who come, I can identify many. George? Peev is far from soup? rigrok, but fairly good-natured? executor. Or Badr El? Kaddouri - how with him it was nice and easy to work! Just remember how he announced to us at the gathering in Yalta, on the way where he sowed all his things. Among the legionaries, it is worth talking about Diogo Rincona. And how sad it was to look at him in the years that followed, when his countrymen appeared in the team and he went peddling! In my time he was perfect, on the football field Diogo knew almost everything? - Attack, defend, beat, transfer to give, be king in the air.
- And what happened to Maris Verpakovskis, why did he go so fast?.
- With me, is it all? was fine (smiling).
- Samyi? bitter? the moment coaching? career?.
- I hate to recall what happened in Donetsk. I had a premonition of something that was not good. Did not you want to play with Greece? in Donetsk. Not because of the relationship to Shakhtar, no! There were just stadiums that really helped us - they are Lviv, Dnieper, Kharkiv. These cities, if I may say so, were places of prayer. In Donetsk, alas, the non-football situation was.
- Yes, even with this untold scandal over the price of tickets.
- The very place of the match, it seemed, was appointed in order. I do not know from whom the initiative came - from Yanukovych or someone else. Well, then began these quite natural confrontations along the line.
- Igor Shtimats a profession coach coach? compared with the leader of a lot? corporation. With what would you compare?.
"Did I have any thoughts?" draw parallels. I can say for sure that the coach's job is teamwork? is it quite different from clubbing? of work. Absolutely another specificity. Similarly, does it differ from children? coach from an adult. These are two completely different professions.
- In the Soviet era, coaches flourished postulate that sex and relationships with girls in principle harm the players. Do you agree?.
- Yes, how was it to determine if the married people came to the base two days before the game, and unmarried - for three? !! This question in general, sorry, did not stand!.
- Well, yes, as in that old joke - "Stewardess" will be? Thank you, I have "Opal". How did you feel about the eternal races on the base?.
- When was my youngest born? son, I gladly went to the base - there I even got enough sleep (laughs). In general, you need to understand what time it was. The total? the deficit led to the fact that domestic cares were above the roof - then get it, then screw it up. And coaches, pulling us out of this? the eternal? gimmicks, helped to concentrate on foot? more. It was unreal at home.
- Who in Kiev Dynamo was considered the most, let's say, gorazdym on Cupids player?.
- You put me in this position. The fact that I married at the age of 19 and no longer participated in bachelor parties, so I'm afraid not to me the question. Here generally as: one can be offended that he was mentioned in this context, and the other? - On the contrary, for not being named (laughs)!.
- Are you one of those who hold the opinion that a woman on board a "football" airplane or bus does not belong?.
- Of course. If everyone? has developed normally, then you do not remember this. But just a little, immediately thought about a woman. I do not know how you can not pay attention to superstition. I have my own story. 2004. The game, after which? I quit my job in Dynamo Kyiv. We leave the base for a match with the Turks. We have blocked the Park alley, and we have to get through Podil. This is the first. And here's the second - we go out to the game, and it turns out that UEFA has just introduced a ban on coaches smoking during the match!.
"How did you resist?".
- Well, there was a break.
- By the way, and Valeria? Vasilievich did not mind about your smoking? He never smoked.
- He understood that this is an integral part of the work process. Once during a tense? games in the second thai, me, Demjanenko and Puzach smoked in unison, although usually they did it in turn. The smoke of kisses? tai? m stood takoy? that sitting behind the field was not visible! The match we won. When did they start discussing it, Valeria? Vasilyevich turned to us and said: "And you smoke one by one! I did not see the second one ".
- Is your return to the coaching chair possible?.
- I do not exclude. To put it mildly, I'm not a stranger to my profession. Do I have any trainers? experience, but life itself will put everything? into place. But in general, I believe that every person has his own destiny, so why? I will not disown. The Bible says: "It is not in the power of the one who is going to give direction to his feet". I believe in it.
- When analyzing your coaching career, it seems that some kind of supernatural interference often hampered the overall success - these two ill-fated groups of the Champions League, when one lost in the last round with Juventus in Kiev, and the other is inextricably linked with three goals in the last minutes; lost? finals of the youth Euro; finally, the ill-fated defeat of Greece at home.
"From Holland?" it turned out to be interesting - we, as in 88? m, we beat in the group, but in the final. A complete repetition of history! And so I can repeat - it did not work, so it was not meant to be. Although we did everything? possible.
- Four years in the reserve of Kiev Dynamo. From the height of past years, do you think it worked for you or were you ready to play at the base much earlier?.
"This hour is more realistic about the situation that developed at that time in Kiev" Dynamo ". Of course, everything? was on business! So that in the end it turned out, I needed to wake the beast in me. I saw that the team was collected perfectly - well, you do not get in there! You have to wait, wait. The inner anger in me grew. And when this chance appeared, did I grab him dead? snap?.
- What role in yours? fate played a trip to the Moscow "Dynamo"?.
- Here, most of all, it hurt me not that I was sent to the Moscow "Dynamo", but that without my knowledge. I have ten years of Kiev? Dynamo, and if I do not need a club, then I'll go where I want, and not where I'm going to be sent! This, too, was a manifestation of character. When did I return to Kiev, Anatolia? Kirillovich Puzach asked me to calm down, because he was huge? scandal - in which I just did not blame, in the betrayal of what?. It was only later that I learned that Valery Vasilyevich had no choice, and by and large I was not the main player. When I arrived, I was shown a statement on which the handwriting was written? Valery Vasilyevich, that he lets me go to the end of the season in the Moscow "Dynamo".
- Yeah, the history of the Dynamo Kiev could be on another way.
- This is yes. If I stayed in the Moscow Dynamo in 86? M, then it would be a bit harder for Kiev to win the championship (laughs)! I remember how tired our guys came from Mexico. At first I went on to replace, and then I began to play constantly in the first team, because many guys were injured or just lost the form. World championships are not painless. As history shows, after the world championships, new names always appear in football.
- As in 66, recently recalled with Vladimir Fedorovich Muntean - when five went to the national team, and then returned and did not find their places.
- Like that.
- How often did you quarrel with your friends? Have you ever stopped talking to someone?.
"It may be hard to believe, but we had a warm, almost family atmosphere in our teams. I found in the "Dynamo" Konkov, Veremeev, Kolotov. Yes, they had their own group. Not a grouping, but a group of soccer players by interests. Then in the "Dynamo" came a group of young players - Kaplun, Zhuravlev, Demyanenko, Bal, Evtushenko, Mikhailov, Baltach. But no disagreement? within the collective did not arise. I remember that well, because in 82-83? M often already got on the wallpaper? Mu 16 people per game.
- How did you react to your friend Anatolia? Demyanenko headed the alternative Football Federation of Kiev?.
"Honestly, I do not quite understand the motives behind this act!" I do not think that Anatolia? Vasilyevich is well versed in the problems of Kiev football. Would it be clearer if his heart ached for the Dnieper? football. I do not know what problems he saw in Kiev football, but this is his choice.
- Compared with your igratzkim time players skate cheese in oil, not experiencing any domestic problems - this question is closed for them. In this they have bought a lot. But do you have a feeling that football has lost something very valuable, at the edges? measure, has become different?.
- Yes it was generally a different time! We lived in seclusion? country. Yes, we had different? championship. Yes, we had a huge variety of schools. We had 15 republics, football was different in almost all aspects! Do I have something to compare with. I felt it when I was in Italy. There, all the teams are the same, and the result depends only on the quality of the players. In "Milan" three Dutchmen, in "Inter" - three Germans. That's all? diversity.
Then - the collapse of one? country and the emergence of another?. Destroyed all schools and boarding schools. After a while - the influx of legionnaires. It used to be much easier for coaches to work. Everyone speaks this language, there are no translators, everyone communicates, everyone has the same goal, the same apartment, the same car, the same salary.
- And what annoys you in modern football?.
- I do not like admiration of the West. Not only in football, in all things in life. If earlier half of the Italian coaches studied at Lobanovsky, Beskov and others, taking all our innovations (this is by no means an allegation and not a common place - it was so! I will add only that not only the Italians - for example, the famous "German" expert Ralph Rangnik attentive? He studied the training of Dynamo, when he came to the training camps in Ryu-t and never concealed that he had learned a lot. - A. ), then our specialists take over the West? experience and not only. It's necessary to go for internships, but do not blindly copy or imitate leading world experts. It is necessary to be able to adapt only those things that fit our football.
At ours? countries are very large? potential and history, about which? you need to remember! Only in the Kiev "Dynamo" three owners of the "Golden Ball". It probably says a lot, does not it?.
- There will already be video replay at the 2018 World Cup. What is your attitude to such innovations?.
- You need to lock the goal. Technology leads. And who knows, maybe, very soon we will refuse the side referees.
"What book are you reading?".
- "Paris" by Edward Rutherford. And before that I read his "London", since there are many well-known places.
- Are they different? choice! Sam recommended my friends this series as a cool gift, I do not remember only six or seven books have already come out of Rutherford. Was there a book that seriously changed your worldview?.
- For each age their books. I believe that at the age of 17-18 or early it is necessary to read "The Three Musketeers". Is it necessary for a young person to have an idea of ??the present? men's? friendship, decency, responsibility, love, in the end. Then I had a period with fantasy? Alexander Belyaev, detective? period - I really read Sherlock Holmes. I am very glad that in my time I mastered "Voi, well, peace". A wonderful work! The "word and deed" of Valentin Pikul is a magnificent thing that picks up Pikul as a whole. Moreover, as I age, I became more fond of books on historical subjects.
- A film that? ready to look again and again?.
- "Love and Pigeons", "Gentlemen of Fortune", "Ivan Vasilievich Changes His Profession". Yes, there were many such films, where each phrase can be broken into quotations. And when the "Irony of Fate, or With Easy Steam" came out! There is a storehouse of brilliant quotations in general.
- What? would the concert go with pleasure?.
- On Smokie, but, unfortunately, they are no longer there.
- And from ours? bands?.
- I really liked the Pesnyary Ensemble and their composer Vladimir Mulyavin. I remember them first? tour to America, where they put a rock? opera *. It was so new and unlike in comparison with what was done in our country, which seemed a masterpiece!.
- With whom are you closely acquainted with musicians, actors?.
- Do I have a small family relationship? Bilonozhko - I baptized their granddaughter. I know Zhenya Kemerovsky well. When he happens in Kiev, we are sure to meet. With Pavel Zybrov I'm friends. Yes, with many, of course, a sign, you begin to enumerate - do not forget whoever inadvertently!.
- How often do you go to church?.
- Often enough. But this is very personal.
- Invite you to attend any sporting event to choose from - what would it be?.
- NHL or NBA match. I used to follow the NHL closely when our compatriots from the Soviet Union played there. Like everyone else, he was a fan of the five "Detroit? Ta". (Kozlov - Larionov - Fedorov, Fetisov - Konstantinov. - Auth. ) I had a huge satellite dish, I do not know, by the way, as it was not blown off, so at 2-3 o'clock in the morning I turned on the TV and watched the games "Detroit? Ta". Just was out of work and could afford it. Live only once in Chicago was on hockey. In 1991, in May, we went with Oleg Kuznetsov to rest in the States. Everyone? the evening - matches plei offs of the NHL and the NBA! We sat down near the TV - they took fruit, a bottle of wine and watched ecstatically all matches in a row.
- Did you play for yourself?.
- In basketball - at the school level. And Anatolia? Fedorovich Byshovets practiced training with basketball players in the winter off-season. By the way, very interesting practice - there absolutely different speeds, coordination, thinking. With basketball players it was interesting to play football. The sense of the ball and the explosive qualities of basketball players are fundamentally different from the players. For basketball players, it was also excellent quenching - when playing soccer their legs worked quite differently.
"In what?" still areas other than football would be able to show themselves?.
- So I would like to show myself again in football (laughs)! I have had a dream since six years - playing football and playing in Kiev Dynamo. Am I fabulously happy? game? fate, that which I have. Maybe someone thinks that I stayed in reserve, but with a friend? hand - after takoy? I got a huge amount of impres- sion? adrenalin. In general, I will not say that I would like to see myself in something else.
- Do you think everyone? the smith of his own happiness, or in life everything? someone from above is predetermined?.
- Are there many examples where one person is everything? correctly, as it should, does, proves for years, but in the end it does not work out anything. And the other? seems to be and does not apply a lot of effort ?, but he has everything? is obtained. Is there a third? option. Doing, doing, doing, and in the end what? It turns out! Therefore, there is no unambiguous answer to this question in my understanding.
- If you had a time machine, in what era would you go?.
- Yes all? interesting - both past and future. Would it be interesting to plunge into seventeen? or eighteen? century - they are from the most interesting centuries, as it seems to me.. To France, for example.
- In the time of Velikii? French? revolution and the reign of terror?.
- Aha! It is interesting to know, with what? the sides of the guillotine you will stand (laughs). When I look at the starry sky, everything? looks so interesting and tempting. Immediately aware that even one? million? I can not understand the proportion of how the universe works!.
Valery Prigornitsky, Artem Frankov for the magazine Football.