This in an interview with "Apostrophe" told Ukrainian writer Oksana Zabuzhko.

"We do not even realize how often we use the laws prescribed, sorry, by Comrade Stalin. The younger generation does not know this at all, that's the horror and the main manipulation - the bet that eventually people get used to totalitarian law and society starts to perceive it as a natural norm. As in a well-known experiment with monkeys that were poured with water when they climbed behind a banana - after all, there was not a single monkey left in the cage that was poured, all were new, but none of the new ones tried to climb behind that banana, they did not seem to see him. So we do not see to what extent we continue to live in the USSR, "- said Zabuzhko.

According to her, Ukraine urgently needs legal reform and revision of many acts and norms in almost all spheres.

"For example, when you go to the pool, how do you think you need a certificate from a gynecologist and dermatologist? Nowhere beyond the western border is it necessary - you pay 2 euros and go to any pool. Our new pools are built using the same modern technology, with filtration and constant water supply, that is, normal pools like the ones in the West. But here you can not just come in from the street and go swimming, no! You need a certificate from a dermatologist and gynecologist, because the sanitary and epidemiological station requires. And why? Yes, because this law was adopted. in the 1930s! "- says the writer.